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The Who | My Generation - Page 4:
Album: My Generation, The Who Sings My Generation, My Generation (Deluxe Edition), My Generation Box (Japan), My Generation (Super Deluxe Edition)
LPs (vinyl) Sampled: "My Generation" [Brunswick (UK), Virgin-reissue (UK), Decca (Germany), Polydor-reissue (Germany), Decca (Japan), Festival (Australia)], "Who Sings My Generation" [Decca - stereo (USA), Decca - mono (USA), Life - stereo (Hong Kong)], "The Kids Are Alright" [Brunswick (Holland)], "Big Hits Like Who" [Brunswick (Holland)], "Music Fur Alle: The Who The Beat" [Decca-reissue (Germany)]
CDs (original mix) Sampled: "The Who Sings My Generation" [MCA-1st pressing (USA), MCA-2nd pressing-denoted "NM" in a circle on the disc face (USA), MCA (Canada)], "My Generation" (Japan), The Who Sings My Generation (2020 Oldays Label Japan)
CDs (remix) Sampled: "My Generation - Deluxe Edition" [Polydor (UK) - Promo "Acetate", Polydor (UK), MCA (USA), Universal (Japan), Universal (China), MCA (USA - SACD)
CDs (remastered) Sampled: "My Generation Box" [Universal (Japan)], "My Generation" [Universal (Japan)]
CDs (remixed/remastered) Sampled: "My Generation" (Super Deluxe Edition) [Universal (UK)], "My Generation" (Super Deluxe Edition) [Universal (Japan)]Download Sampled: "My Generation" (Stereo) 2014 wide stereo remix (High Definition 96/24)
LP Comments: Each of these seems to have their own distinct sound and variations. I like the Virgin (UK) the best, which is sonically equivalent to the Brunswick (UK), but doesn't have all the noise in-between the tracks. This is a well-recorded record. Unfortunately, all the versions of "The Who Sings My Generation" are in simulated stereo (one channel heavier on the bass, the other on the treble), whether they are marked "stereo" or "mono" and don't sound all that good. The (Holland) LP sounds similar to the UK, but with a little less frequency response (i.e. "duller" sounding). The Decca (German) LPs are in simulated stereo, but have an annoying reverb/echo effect. The Polydor (German) (commonly found in the 1981 "Phases" box) is "dull".
CD (original mix) comments: The 1st pressing MCA was just horrible--a real tin can effect! They later went back and redid it, making it somewhat listenable, but very thin sounding. Canadian copies of this CD are plentiful, but they sound just as bad. The 2020 Oldays label Japan CD creates a new "fake stereo" (which is exactly what comes up with the meta data) version. Sounds OK, but basically pointless.
CD (remix) comments: Wow! At long last, "My Generation" - The Who's very first album remixed and remastered in true stereo! This is a great CD - it's loud, dynamic and for the most part, crystal clear with excellent sound quality throughout - like a great live Who performance. This version certainly "blows away" all other versions of the album that came before it. All of these above versions (including the SACD) sound just about the same, except for the Japan Mini-LP version (the regular Japan version is simply an MCA USA pressing with a Japanese OBI). The Japan Mini-LP version sounds like it was additionally processed and doesn't sound "quite right" (very nice packaging though).
CD (remastered) comments: The box set includes fantastic packaging includes mini-LP covers of: My Generation (Japan), Musik fur Alle: The Who The Beat (Germany), Instant Party (Holland), The Kids Are Alright (Holland), Big Hits Like Who (Holland), My Generation (UK), The Who Sings My Generation (USA Mono) and mini-Single covers of: I Can't Explain (Denmark), I Can't Explain (Germany), I Can't Explain (Italy), Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere (Germany), My Generation (Belgium), Les Who My Generation (France/Belgium), My Generation (Denmark), My Generation (Sweden), The Kids Are Alright (Italy), A Legal Matter (Denmark), A Legal Matter (Italy), A Legal Matter (Japan), Out In The Street (Japan), La La La Lies (Italy), My Generation (France EP), Out In The Street (France EP), The Kids Are Alright (France EP), Les Who My Generation (France EP), I Can't Explain (France EP), Dance Session (Australia EP).
CD (remixed/remastered) comments (Super Deluxe Edition): 5 CDs (including Pete Townshend demos), a book (demo notes by Pete Townshend), 2 period <reproduction> posters and other memorabilia. Japan box set includes exclusive "extras": A reproduction of the 1966 Japan "Out In The Street"/"Please, Please, Please" 45 picture sleeve and (2) two 7.5" translucent reproductions of the 1965 UK "My Generation" LP cover and the 1966 USA "The Who Sings My Generation" LP cover.In order to compare/contrast the "Super Deluxe Edition" (SDE) box set versions properly, you also have to include the 2014 Download version (above) since they overlap to a degree...
Having lived with the download for ~2 years prior to the SDE and the bonus material for ~16+ years, I am very familiar with these tracks. An important thing to consider when comparing is that the sampling/bit rate of a CD is 44/16, vs. an HD (high definition), 96/24. Having sat in a studio with master tapes and listened/recorded to both formats back to back, there's clearly a distinct difference. Unfortunately, if your various systems are "CD only" (or "44/16 only") - that's the best source you have (i.e. one of my cars will play HD WAV files, the other, won't.)If you are able to easily playback the HD versions of these songs, by all means they are going to sound better. However, at the moment (12/16), the HD tracks are currently limited to what was released in 2014, not the entire 79 tracks released with the SDE (which features additional Who bonus tracks (including a remixed stereo version of "Circles" - which now has more French horn in the mix) and Pete Townshend demos.
Having sampled/played the HD Download, the UK SDE and the Japan SDE, I can say that the UK SDE comes closer to the HD version than the Japan version. As with many of the Polydor/Universal Japan CDs, there seems to be a frequency shift towards the bass. This version seems to have a slight shift, which also gives it a slightly more "processed" sound to it. (I suspect that most people won't be able to tell the difference - ears and listening environment dependent.) After listening to the Japan CD version, I prefer the sound on the UK version.
If you have the luxury of doing so, combine the HD download with the UK SDE (Super Deluxe Edition) to have the best sound for all of the tracks. The additional bonus material on the SDE is well worth the cost of the box...
Compare for yourself!
Below are 30 second WAV samples of "My Generation" from the various pressings/sources of "My Generation" as described above.
1965 UK Multitrack Tape 1965 UK Master Tape 1965 UK LP 1965 Australia LP 1965 Germany LP 1965 Holland LP (Instant Party) 1965 Holland LP (My Generation) 1966 Japan LP 1966 USA LP ("Mono") 1966 USA LP ("Stereo") 1967 Germany LP ("Stereo") 1980 UK LP (Virgin) 1985 USA CD 1988 USA CD 1988 Canada CD 2002 USA CD 2003 UK CD 2005 USA DAT Master (Mono) 2008 Japan CD (Mono) 2012 UK CD (Mono) 2014 UK Download (Stereo) 2016 UK CD (Mono) 2016 UK CD (Stereo) 2016 Japan CD (Mono) 2016 Japan CD (Stereo) 2020 Japan CD (Mono) 2020 Japan CD (Fake Stereo) 2022 Germany 1/2 Speed Master LP (Stereo)
Note: Sound comparisons are only as good as your ears and the equipment you are listening to the music with.Summary: The "Super Deluxe Edition" remixed CD is clearly the best and definitive version - it contains everything you would want or expect from "My Generation".
About: My Generation (Super Deluxe Edition) - 2016
This is the definitive version - wide stereo mixes, original mono mixes, extensive bonus tracks and Pete Townshend demos - a total of 79 tracks (see track listing below).
The "Super Deluxe" version is partially comprised of the 2014 wide-stereo mixes (see section below) and so much more.
Disc 1 is a remastered, original track line up of the 1965 UK "My Generation"
Disc 2 is a wide stereo remix of original track line up of the 1965 UK "My Generation". The missing parts from the multi-track tapes (i.e. Pete Townshend's guitar parts from "My Generation") were carefully and seamlessly restored.
Disc 3 (mono bonus tracks) are comprised of the original singles (i.e. "I Can't Explain"), "b" sides (i.e. "Shout & Shimmy"), previously released tracks (i.e. "Instant Party Mixture"), a previously unreleased <on CD> track (the rare,
1965 France "I Can't Explain" (EP) version of "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere") and (10) ten previously unreleased versions of tracks mixed by Shel Talmy in 2000:
* Out In the Street (Alt guitar break) - This version features a cool "feedback guitar" section (which differs from the album version)
* Out In the Street (Alt early vocal) - A "rougher" version of the song (which would also sound great remixed to stereo)
* I Don’t Mind (Full Length) - Unique mix
* The Good’s Gone (Full Length) - Unique mix
* My Generation (Alt version) - A very cool alternate version (which would also sound great remixed to stereo)
* I’m A Man (V2 – Early vocal) - Great alternate version, which is more "instrumental" than the common version
* Daddy Rolling Stone, (alt. take) - This is a cool variation without backing vocals, which gives the song a very different feel
* Lubie (Come Back Home) (Alt Mix) - Alternate mix
* Shout And Shimmy (Alt mix) - Another variation <mostly> without backing vocals
* Circles (Alt Mix) - The "French Horn" mix. If you love John Entwistle's French Horn - you will love this version (the horn is very prominent in the mix)
Disc 4 (wide stereo bonus tracks) are comprised of the original singles and "b" sides (i.e. "I Can't Explain"), previously released tracks (i.e. "Instant Party Mixture"), and several previously unreleased versions:
* Out In The Street (Alt – Take 1) - Single feedback alternate guitar version (first released in 2014 as a "download only")
* Circles (New Mix) - This version features more of John Entwistle's French Horn than the 2014 mix
* Daddy Rolling Stone (Alt Take B – New Mix) - Wide stereo mix of the variation without backing vocals
* Out In The Street (Alt Take 2) - Double feedback alternative guitar version - very special
* I’m A Man (Alt – New Mix) - Wide stereo mix of the alternate vocal, more instrumental version
Disc 5 "Primal Scoop" (Pete Townshend demos). I refer to this disc as the "Romantic Pete". I originally expected this disc to be "loaded" with all of the <existing> demos from 1964/65. These would include, "The Kids Are Alright", "Do The Strip", "Kill My Appetite" and others that were featured on the original album. Instead, in Pete's wisdom - he gave this disc a "theme" - which gives this collection of songs a cohesive feel to them. The recording quality is unbelievably good - as good as any high quality demo Pete released previously. The previously unheard songs have a nice feel to them and contrast nicely with the songs that were used on "My Generation" - which have a "darker" feel to them. One thing you might want to consider - re-record this disc and take the 2nd "My Generation" (partial demo) and place it at the end of the disc (like a "reprise") - I think it helps the songs flow better.
Additionally...
Apparently Pete recorded (3) three different demos of "Sunrise" (including the 1966 "band sounding" version, "I'm Thinking Of You All The While"). The version contained here is the earliest of the versions.
"My Generation" was originally released as a flexi-disc included with the 1982 Richard Barnes' book, "Maximum R&B". This is the same version, but unedited and runs approximately 30 seconds longer.
This is a great box set - a must have for any Who fan that wants to enjoy endless hours of "My Generation" (and the related session songs)
About: My Generation
2014 Wide Stereo Remix (Download Only)
This version is based on the same wide-stereo mixes as found on the Shel Talmy tracks from "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" (i.e. "Leaving Here", "Lubie", etc.).
The few "missing" parts from the original multi-tracks <which were absent on the "Deluxe Edition"> (i.e. Pete's guitar in "My Generation") have been lovingly restored.
Words cannot adequately describe just how fantastic this album has been transformed.
The sound is "wall-to-wall" - every inch of my speakers is saturated with sound and with each listen - this is a "WOW!"
This is what was envisioned for the 2002 <"Deluxe Edition"> release that never happened. Fortunately, the stars were aligned and this is a real winner.
Once you listen to this version of the album, there's *no* going back to any of the previous versions. In comparison, they are like an "old transistor radio" vs. "a Who concert"...
Other...
* "Circles" (formally known as "Instant Party") has John's French horn restored (it was removed from the 2002 version).
* "Instant Party Mixture" has the complete "Johnny Be Good" ending.
* "Out In The Street" (alternate version) has the cool "feedback guitar" (which Pete launches into about half way into the song)...
This is a MUST HAVE album. Don't think about it, just buy it... and enjoy!
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Note: The sites that offer this album have the old descriptions for the 2002 version. However, when you look at the track listing, you can see there are *2* versions of "Out In The Street" (only *1* was available on the 2002 version).
Here are 2 websites which offer this version:
www.hdtracks.com http://store.acousticsounds.com
About: My Generation
Deluxe Edition:
There was a long road to get to this CD and I'll try to "tell the story" in a shorter, concise version (if possible)...
Once upon a time there was a band called The Who. They had a manager/producer named Shel Talmy. At some point after recording the "My Generation" album, the band and Shel parted ways - and not on friendly terms. A law suit extended Shel's rights to the next 3 albums whereas he received royalties as a result of the band breaking his contract. Hence, there wasn't a "friendly" relationship between the band and Shel after they parted ways...
At some time around 1990, MCA had interest in creating a true stereo "My Generation" LP. This was after it was discovered that Shel Talmy had retained the original multi-tracks for all of The Who music he had recorded in 1965. During this time, The Who had only the mono master tapes in their possession (as well as the legal rights to distribute the music via their record companies), while Shel had the multi-tracks and no legal rights to distribute the music from them - hence a 10 year on-off-on-off negotiation took place - which ended up in frustration for both parties...
Fast forward to ~2000...
Shel’s multi-track tapes were listed on eBay - with an opening price of $500K. Most people thought it was some sort of joke - I knew immediately what this was and reached out...
Initially, my goal was to "buy" the tapes and work something out with the record companies to get this officially released. Unfortunately, the price was too steep for the record companies and via trial and error (to either find investors or figure out a "3rd party record label deal") time marched on trying to "get this done"...
After close to 2 years of hard work and attempting to turn over every stone imaginable, there were 2 rumors going around that seemed to be concerning to Shel:
1) That the original 1966 stereo mixes might be imminently be uncovered (the ones that Steve Hoffman discovered, that ended up on "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" were from an obvious larger collection of tapes)
2) The remaining members of the band may go into the studio and rerecord the album
The prospect of #1 would have delivered a period, true stereo version of the album to the record company as well as the rights to release it - rendering the original multi-tapes, extremely limited in value
While #2 could be "scoffed" at - the results may have been very interesting and the resulting album could have been wonderful - making the original more like a novelty (we can debate this all we want - it never happened).
However, with this in mind, as well as the prospects to work anything else out not looking good, Shel was able to negotiate with MCA and a deal was made to release the album...
Before getting started with remixing his tapes in stereo, Shel had asked me to send him the released true stereo tracks from his recording sessions (the ones from "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing"). I did - fully expecting that he would copy that "wide stereo" style on the remaining tracks...
When the album was released in 2002, it had received mixed reviews. While the album was now "technically" in true stereo - because of the way it was mixed, it was more like "wide mono".
The original material was recorded on a 3 track machine. Vocals, Guitar(s)/Bass, Drums.
If you wanted to create "wide stereo" (like the Who's/Two's Missing versions) you would end up putting the vocals in the center, drums to one side and guitar/bass to the other.
This doesn't really create an actual "true" band sound (picture The Who with Keith Moon sitting off to the right corner and only coming out of the right
speakers at a concert).
However, "true band sound" aside, its sorta what the early Beatles recordings sounded like and it worked well for the previously released material. I never did "find out" why they didn't use that style of mixing.
One thing that fans tend to do is "poo poo" without knowing all the facts. It's possible that they did try to “mix wide”, but perhaps a few of the songs were structured in such a way that the "wide stereo" mix didn't work well - and one thing is for sure - you can't putz around and create different mix styles for different songs - the whole album wouldn't sound correct. I don't know if this is the case, but it's a possibility...
My only complaint was "Circles".
Shel had sent me some mixes of the tracks - including all the out-takes for the sessions.
The French horn in "Circles" was unbelievable (it was as if John was playing in the same room where you were listening).
When it was "missing" from the final - I needed to know - WHY???
Apparently John wasn't in the same pitch with the rest of the band and when played back in stereo - it was extremely noticeable. Unfortunately, what they didn't consider (and should have) was electronically adjusting the pitch of the horn to match the rest of the tracks. This would have made the horn work and we'd all be basking in John's brilliance...
The other "odd" thing was that they faded out the "Johnny Be Good" ending on "Instant Party Mixture". Perhaps a royalties issue or someone didn't like it??? Personally, I really liked the rest of the song that they recorded!
The "new" version of the album contains some really cool stuff and apparently missing a few "overdubs" that were made to the mono masters (the lead guitar in "My Generation" being the most noticeable one!).
There are a few other "out-takes" which I hope get released one day - for example, there's a version of "Out In The Street" with this very cool feedback sliding guitar sound - which is very different than the released version...
I'd love to see them go back to the studio, remix this in "wide stereo" (band correctness be damned) and for them to fix the pitch on John's horn as well as for Pete to overdub the missing guitar on "My Generation" - very carefully retracing his steps (or perhaps it's possible to extract this electronically from the mono version? Modern technology and all...)
As to the songs, I love them all with the exception of "Please, Please, Please". I've never been able to listen to it...
The style on this album is very different than everything that came thereafter. It was a transition from The Who being the "Maximum R&B" band (and that sound) to the upcoming, young Pete Townshend and his gifted writing style...Prior to the Deluxe version, all the Shel Talmy Who recorded tracks have been only available in mono, with the exception of: "Leaving Here", "Lubie", "Motoring", "Heatwave", "Daddy Rolling Stone" and "I'm A Man". These tracks were previously released on "Who's Missing" and "Two's Missing" and. were originally mixed in 1965/66 and feature wide stereo separation.
The true stereo tracks on this "deluxe" album are mixed differently than the 2014 HD mix or Super Deluxe versions. For the most part, the stereo separation is fairly narrow - almost giving you the impression that the recordings are wide-mono. With a 3 track recording, there aren't a lot of options how to place the instruments in the sound field and I think their goal was to recreate more of the band sound (with Keith Moon set up in the middle of the band) vs. a great wide stereo mix (but less technically correct for how the band actually played - with Keith off to one side). Personally, I prefer wide stereo separation at the expense of "artistic correctness", but it certainly can be argued both ways.
Regardless of mix preferences, the <Deluxe Edition> sound is overwhelmingly good and everyone who listens to it should enjoy it immensely. There are no noticeable sound variations between any of the current releases. Some interesting things to note...
It was discovered that a few songs had overdubs added to them directly into the mono mixes and therefore, those overdubs were not recorded on the original master tapes. Two of the these songs ("My Generation" and "A Legal Matter") had additional guitar parts added to the mono mixes and that's why they are added to the end of the track listing (see below). "La La La Lies" had additional backing vocals added to the mono mix, and these vocals are noticeably absent on the stereo mix - but not in a bad way. "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" has a similar story. Apparently the vocal track that was used on the 1965 French "I Can't Explain" EP was the original recorded vocal, and the common version (which appears everywhere else) seems to have had its vocal recorded directly into the mono mix, and therefore absent from this collection of songs
Additionally:.
- "I Can't Explain" and "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" sound magnificent in stereo.
- "Leaving Here" is different than any previously released version.
- "Daddy Rolling Stone" is a different version than either previously released versions.
- "Circles". On the copy from the master tapes (below), it is super clean and has a very prominent French Horn -
which can just bring tears to your eyes. On this version, there's additional distortion and the French Horn seems
to be almost mixed out completely. A real shame, because the horn was a real treat. This was apparently done
because the French Horn was recorded "out of tune" and very noticeable in the stereo mix. Perhaps it can be
released in the future on another Who rarities album, by adjusting the pitch of the horn to bring it back in tune?
- "Instant Party Mixture" is a previously unreleased song. For some reason, back in 1965
"Circles" got re-titled to "Instant Party", but they are completely different. The "Mixture"
is a blend of "Instant Party" and a change over to a "Johnny Be Good" instrumental.
Unfortunately, this released version fades out too quickly - the unedited master tape
plays 8 seconds longer and has no fade, making it seem even longer.Mono:
I'm not a fan of mono anything. Mono isn't a "natural" sound. We were born with 2 ears and hear in stereo. However, with "My Generation", the original album was only released in mono in 1965/66 (the "My Generation" LPs of that period that were sold as "stereo" were all "simulated" (fake) stereo, which was nothing more than turning the treble up on one side and the bass up on the other, or some sort of compression and reverb "trick" to give a "stereo effect" without actually delivering true stereo at all.
Whether the band actually completed true stereo mixes by sometime in 1966 is unknown. However, the mono mixes were complete and "finished". As mentioned <way> above, I liked the sound on the original UK Brunswick LP and its reissue on the Virgin label. Since then, there have been several reissues of this <mono> LP on CD, beginning with the 2007 CD in Japan, followed by the 2008 Japan "My Generation" Box Set, a 2011 SACD, a remastered Japan CD in 2012 and a Germany CD also in 2012. While all of the earlier Japan CDs have varying degrees of "nice packaging", it's the 2012 CD which sounds the best of the Japan bunch. Coincidentally, Polydor Germany released a single CD (no bonus tracks) version of the album, remastered from the same tape used for the 1981 "Phases" box version. The coincidence is that the 2012 Japan CD and the 2012 Germany CD, came from 2 different source tapes, were remastered by 2 different people and remarkably, sound just about the same (which is really good!). Go figure...-----------------------------------------------
Track Listing(s):
UK: Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Good's Gone, La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, I'm A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox
USA (and Japan 2020 Oldays CD): Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Good's Gone, La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright (drum solo edited out), Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, The Ox, A Legal Matter, Instant Party (Circles)
Deluxe Edition (remix): Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Good's Gone, La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, I'm A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox, Circles, I Can't Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Daddy Rolling Stone, Leaving Here, Lubie, Shout And Shimmy, Heatwave, Motoring, Anytime You Want Me, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Instant Party Mixture, I Don't Mind (Extended version), The Good's Gone (Extended version), My Generation (Instrumental version), Anytime You Want Me (A Cappella version), A Legal Matter (Mono version), My Generation (Mono version)
Holland (Instant Party): Instant Party, Bald Headed Woman, My Generation, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, The Kids Are Alright, The Ox, I Can't Explain, A Legal Matter, Daddy Rolling Stone, Much Too Much, Shout And Shimmy, It's Not True
Japan (LP and 2007 CD): My Generation, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, The Ox, The Kids Are Alright, Instant Party, A Legal Matter, Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Goods Gone, La, La, La, Lies, Much Too Much
Japan (2008 Box Set):
Disc 1 (Mono): Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Good's Gone, La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, I'm A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox, I Can't Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Daddy Rolling Stone, Anytime You Want Me, Shout And Shimmy, Circles, Leaving Here, Lubie (Come Back Home), Heatwave, Motoring, Circles (alternate mix)
Disc 2 (Stereo): Out In The Street, I Don't Mind, The Good's Gone, La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, I'm A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox, Can't Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Daddy Rolling Stone, Anytime You Want Me, Shout And Shimmy, Circles, Instant Party Mixture, Leaving Here (alternate version), Lubie (Come Back Home), Heatwave, Motoring
UK, Japan (Super Deluxe Edition) CD Box Set:
Disc 1 (Mono): Out In The Street, I Don’t Mind, The Good’s Gone, La-La-La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It’s Not True, I’m A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox
Disc 2 (Stereo): Out In The Street, I Don’t Mind, The Good’s Gone, La-La-La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It’s Not True, I’m A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox
Disc 3 (Mono Bonus Tracks): I Can’t Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Daddy Rolling Stone, Leaving Here, Lubie (Come Back Home), Shout And Shimmy, Heatwave, Motoring, Anytime You Want Me, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Instant Party Mixture, Circles, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere (French EP Mix), Out In the Street (Alt guitar break), Out In the Street (Alt early vocal), I Don’t Mind (Full Length), The Good’s Gone (Full Length), My Generation (Alt version), I’m A Man (V2 – Early vocal), Daddy Rolling Stone, (alt. take), Lubie (Come Back Home) (Alt Mix), Shout And Shimmy (Alt mix), Circles (Alt Mix)
Disc 4 (Stereo Bonus Tracks): Out In The Street (Alt – Take 1), I Don’t Mind (Full Length Version), The Good’s Gone (Full Length Version), My Generation (Instrumental Version), The Kids Are Alright (Alt – Take 1), I Can’t Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Daddy Rolling Stone, Daddy Rolling Stone (Alt version), Leaving Here, Lubie (Come Back Home), Shout And Shimmy, Heatwave, Motoring, Anytime You Want Me, Instant Party Mixture, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Circles (New Mix), Daddy Rolling Stone (Alt Take B – New Mix), Out In The Street (Alt Take 2), I’m A Man (Alt – New Mix)
Disc 5 (Primal Scoop – Pete Townshend Demos): My Generation (V 3), My Generation (V 2 – fragment), The Girls I Could’ve Had, It’s Not True, As Children We Grew, Legal Matter, Sunrise (V 1), Much Too Much, My Own Love, La-La-La- Lies, The Good’s GoneUK (Super Deluxe Edition) 3 LP (Mono)
[The Who]: Out In The Street, I Don’t Mind, The Good’s Gone, La-La-La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It’s Not True, I’m A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox, I Can’t Explain, Bald Headed Woman, Daddy Rolling Stone, Leaving Here, Lubie (Come Back Home), Shout And Shimmy, Heatwave, Motoring, Anytime You Want Me, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Instant Party Mixture, Circles
[Pete Townshend Demos]: My Generation (V 3), My Generation (V 2 – fragment), The Girls I Could’ve Had, It’s Not True, As Children We Grew, Legal Matter, Sunrise (V 1), Much Too Much, My Own Love, La-La-La- Lies, The Good’s GoneUK (Super Deluxe Edition) 2 LP (Stereo): Out In The Street, I Don’t Mind, The Good’s Gone, La-La-La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It’s Not True, I’m A Man, A Legal Matter, The Ox, Out In The Street (Alt – Take 1), I Don’t Mind (Full Length Version), The Good’s Gone (Full Length Version), My Generation (Instrumental Version), The Kids Are Alright (Alt – Take 1), I Can’t Explain, Daddy Rolling Stone, Leaving Here, Lubie (Come Back Home), Shout And Shimmy, Heatwave, Motoring, Anytime You Want Me, Instant Party Mixture, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Circles (New Mix),
The Who - The Shel Talmy Sessions
Apparently this is a pre-mastered 3 CD MCA test pressing set (CDs 1 & 2 pictured on previous page) with 51 tracks of final mixes, alternate mixes, count-offs, etc. Interesting variations in sound quality due to the pre-mastering. Often fans like to second guess why a song was mastered one way or another. By listening to these CDs, you get a feel for some of the decisions that were made. For example, in some cases, Keith's cymbals are so loud that they crash right through your ears - they're too loud. The released version's mastering "fixes" that, giving the same section a smooth sound.
Track listing:
Disc 1: Daddy Rolling Stone, Bald Headed Woman, Lubie, Motoring, Instant Party Mixture, Heatwave, Shout And Shimmy, Leaving Here, I Can't Explain (alt. mix), The Good's Gone (full length version), My Generation (instrumental version), Out In The Street (alt. mix), Anytime You Want Me (a cappella mix), Lubie (alt.), Motoring (alt.), Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere (alt. mix without backing vocals), Instant Party Mixture (a cappella mix)
Disc 2: Lubie, Lubie (alt.), I Can't Explain, I Can't Explain (alt. mix), Bald Headed Woman, Out In The Street, Out In The Street, Motoring, Motoring (alt.), I'm A Man, Heatwave, Daddy Rolling Stone, Please, Please, Please, Shout And Shimmy, I Don't Mind, The Ox, A Legal Matter, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere, Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere (alt.), Circles, Instant Party Mixture, Instant Party Mixture (a cappella mix), Leaving Here, Anytime You Want Me, Anytime You Want Me (a cappella mix)
Disc 3: Out In The Street, The Good's Gone (edited version), La La La Lies, Much Too Much, My Generation, The Kids Are Alright, Please, Please, Please, It's Not True, Anytime You Want MeThe Shel Talmy Tapes
I've had the fortunate privilege of listening to a copy of Shel's master tapes (some of which are included in the "My Generation" (Deluxe Edition) and "My Generation" (Super Deluxe Edition) CD release(s)). There is about 2 hours and 45 minutes of material, which includes released versions of the songs and several outtakes of the same. The sound quality of all of this material is excellent.
Track listing of the original multi-track tapes:
Note: the information in the brackets [ ] are relevant to the take and mix #. Not every track had one described or I just wasn't able to distinguish what they were saying. The comments below the tracks reflect the description that I wrote down as I was listening to the music. There may be some errors as I didn't actually a/b these versions to each other (in the case of multiple takes), or the released versions (except with "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere").
1. "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" [???] No backing vocals. French EP version.
2. "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" [mix 2] Sounds similar, but different mix of French EP version.
3. "Anyway, Anyhow, Anywhere" [mix 1, take 1] Seems to be the French EP version
4. "Out In The Street" [mix 2, final, take 1] Different drumming and guitar parts (complete song)
5. "Out In The Street" [mix 1, take 2] Stops shortly after start.
6. "Out In The Street" [3] Stops shortly after start.
7. "Out In The Street" [4] About ¾ of the song, then stopped.
8. "Out In The Street" [6] Stopped almost immediately after start.
9. "Out In The Street" [7] Cool "feedback" guitar part. (complete song)
10. "Out In The Street" [???] Seems to be LP version, but backing vocals are mixed down.
11. "Lubie" [???] Seems to be the same as on "Who's Missing".
12. "Lubie" [Final Mix] Much higher guitar and much lower drums than above version. Pete Townshend would like this one!
13. "Please, Please, Please" [???] Vocals upfront mix.
14. "Please, Please, Please" [mix 1, take 1] Seems to be the same as the LP version.
15. "Heatwave" [mix 2, take 3] A bit more upbeat than the "Two's Missing" version.
16. "Heatwave" [mix 2, take 4] Seems to be the same as the "Two's Missing" version. Some tape wobble at song's end.
17. "Heatwave" [mix 3, take 1] Compressed mix.
18. "Heatwave" [edit take 1] Edited version. Starts near end of song.
19. "Heatwave" [2 edit] Edited version. Starts near end of song.
20. "I Don't Mind" [take 1, mix 1] Roger banter before song start. Blusier version than LP. Vocal changes and different extended ending as well.
21. "I Don't Mind" [mix 2, take 1] Different mix of take 1 (above).
22. "Shout And Shimmy" [Take 3] Similar/Same as released version.
23. "Shout And Shimmy" [Take 3] Different backing vocals and no backing vocals in other parts.
24. "Daddy Rolling Stone" [???] No backing vocals. Different vocal and guitar parts.
25. "Daddy Rolling Stone" [take 2] No backing vocals. Longer ending than released version.
26. "Daddy Rolling Stone" [take 2, mix final] This version has backing vocals and longer ending than released version(s).
27. "Motor-Vating" ("Two's Missing" title, "Motoring") [Take 1] No backing vocals. Voice on tape says, "Motor-Vating, take 1"]
28. "Motor-Vating" [mix 2, take 1] Compressed mix with backing vocals.
29. "It's Not True" [3] LP version.
30. "La La La Lies" [take 4] LP version.
31. "Much Too Much" [???] LP version.
32. "The Good's Gone" [4] LP version with extended guitar ending.
33. "Anytime You Want Me" [mix 2, take 1] False start.
34. "Anytime You Want Me" [2] Roger sings end part in a higher octave.
35. "Anytime You Want Me" [take 3] Roger forgets lyrics and song stops. Some band banter follows. Tape wobble in the middle.
36. "Anytime You Want Me" [take 4] Roger singing ending in higher octave.
37. "Anytime You Want Me" [mix 1, take 1] Same/Similar to released version.
38. "Anytime You Want Me" [take 1, mix 2] Same/Similar to released version.
39. "Anytime You Want Me" [???] Edited ending only.
40. "Anytime You Want Me" [take 2] Cut short after start. Pete Townshend discusses Roger's vocal part.
41. "Leaving Here" [3] Same as "Who's Missing" version.
42. "I'm A Man" [mix 1, take 1] 2nd ½ of the song is instrumental only.
43. "I'm A Man" [take 2] Same/similar to "My Generation" LP version.
44. "My Generation" [???] Seems slightly different to released version.
45. "The Kids Are Alright" [???] Same/similar to released version.
46. "My Generation" [???] Same/similar to released version.
47. "The Kids Are Alright" [take 1] Pete tunes his guitar before start. Compressed vocal mix.
48. "Circles" (released as "Instant Party") [mix 1, take 4] Same/similar to "Who Sings My Generation" version, Dutch LP "Instant Party" version and Euro & Japanese "b" side versions of "A Legal Matter".
49. "Instant Party Mixture" (unreleased song) [???] The demo of this song, originally titled as "Instant Party" appeared on a bootleg joined with "La La La Lies" and titled (incorrectly) as "Party & Lies". The Who version features Roger on lead vocals. It also features Pete, Keith and John each singing one verse each. The song ends with a "Johnny Be Good" instrumental jam at the end.
50. "The Ox" [take 1] Similar/Same as released version. Voice before song says, "Instrumental, take 1."
51. "A Legal Matter" [take 5] Similar/Same as released version, but with a longer ending.
52. "Lubie" [take 1] No backing vocals.
53. "Out In The Street" [first mix, 2] Seems to be a different take than released version.
54. "I Can't Explain" [???] Same as released version, but much cleaner sound.
55. "Bald Headed Woman" [???] Same as released version, but much cleaner sound and extended ending.
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